Of the couple of Shields that I have shot, I have been very impressed by the reliability.
Even in the hands of people that do not have a strong grip, the gun still ran. That is more than I can say of some other highly regarded polymer pistols on the market.
A friend of mine asked me recently for some advice for a CCW firearm. My reply was simple - if you want ultra-concealability - look no further than the S&W M&P Shield. I have had mine for about 2 months - I got one of the first one's in my area. I bought it brand new - $399 plus tax.
I have put over 1,000 rounds of a combination of my reloads and Wolf ammo through it. The ONLY time it didn't go bang was when I encountered some of my training rounds in my reloads. For every 100 rounds I reload - I add in 1 round that has no powder - and the leave dead primer still in the case. This keeps my type 1 malfunction skills up to par - as I *never* know when I will encounter one of those dummy rounds. Works great for training - sucks for matches - but I shoot matches to get the heart rate up to enhance my training anyway so it works out well.
Back to the Shield - it is the perfect size for a carry gun for ME. There are a lot of reviews out there that compare it in size to other carry guns - so I won't repeat that. However - the comparisons either on paper, word or video do not do the difference justice. The difference in "carryability" is dramatic - again - to me. Your mileage may vary. I currently own a S&W M&P 9C - and have owned Glock 26's, Kahr's, KelTec's, Walther PPK's, etc - always in the quest for the "perfect carry gun". Yet as Goldilocks says - none of them were "just right". They were either too big, too heavy, too thick, no fun to shoot, sights sucked, trigger pull was horrible, unreliable, sissy caliber (.380), etc. etc.
Then I picked up the S&W Shield and thought - "WOW - this is JUST RIGHT!" It is short in length and height. It has REAL sights (steel no less). It is THIN. It carries a decent load (7 +1 for the flush fitting mag) - and is a *real* caliber (9mm). It even has a thumb safety - which for pocket carry I really like. While on the subject of the thumb safety - all I will say is this - it is placed EXACTLY where the first joint of my thumb easily wipes it off (down) during the draw stroke. Not once in the thousand rounds and at least that many dry draw strokes have I failed to swipe it off.
My suggestion is if you get one of these - you TRAIN to ALWAYS swipe it off. Otherwise - if you leave it "off" and plan to leave it off - Murphy will ensure that when you need it - the safety will be "ON" and ruin your day. Train to ALWAYS swipe it off and you will be good to go. That goes with ANY firearm that has a mechanical safety placed anywhere other than the trigger (like Glocks and others). ALWAYS train to deactivate the safety. ALWAYS.
OK - now on to accuracy. It must be stated that the S&W M&P line (particularly in 9mm) has the reputation for NOT being absolute tack drivers. Quite the contrary actually. They are certainly "minute of bad guy" accurate - but not "eye socket" accurate.
Well - my M&P Shield is "eye socket" accurate. I fired 10 rounds of Winchester Ranger T RA9TA 127 grain +P+ ammo at 21 feet (7 yards) - as that is a good distance to take the "eye socket" shot.
Ten rounds in less than an inch (0.85" center to center) at 21 feet (7 yards) is "eye socket" accuracy in my book. This is in 9mm no less. And this is with a much too hard trigger pull too!
Now I have no idea if all S&W M&P Shields are this accurate - all I know is MINE is. I HOPE all others are too.
I have heard lots of reviewers saying they like the trigger pull on the Shields they were handling. My S&W M&P Shield does NOT have a stellar trigger pull. It is too hard. It feels like about 8 pounds. I will put an Apex Sear in my Shield to help that out.
I have carried this in my left front pocket (cargo shorts that have big front pockets), I have carried this in my IWB holster at the 4:30 position (can't warm up to appendix carry) and in an ankle rig. It EXCELS in all three positions. I can't pocket carry this in jeans like I can with my KelTec P3AT - so the .380 will still fill the role of a BUG - but this S&W M&P Shield is now my PRIMARY carry handgun.
My advice is this - if don't want to get a new handgun for CCW use - DO NOT ever handle a S&W M&P Shield!! Cause if you do handle one - you may just catch yourself saying "WOW - this is just right!"
Bashing? I didn't say subcompact Glock or XD. :ack:
The last Kimberly Solo I shot was typical of their quality control. Sometimes you get a good one and sometimes a bad one. Couldn't get this one to make it through a may without a failure to extract.
Great review, I also pick up a shield (9mm) in early May. I have only shot 100 rounds thru it but was sold as soon as they put the gun in my hand. It really does feel that good. It carries so much better than my glock 19. I am still trying to find the right type of holster. I use a leather IWB but want to try something with kydex. Looking at the tacipac. It is a soft pad with kydex holster. Supposed to be the ultimate in comfort. I will report when I get it.
Bashing? I didn't say subcompact Glock or XD. :ack:
The last Kimberly Solo I shot was typical of their quality control. Sometimes you get a good one and sometimes a bad one. Couldn't get this one to make it through a may without a failure to extract.
That's been my experience with Kimber as well lately. I've heard some VERY concerning problems with the Solo from people. Not something I expect out of an $800 gun. I've also had the same experience with my Kahr PM9. It cost me $650 but has not been reliable since day one so I've had to carry my full size 1911 instead. I bought the Shield not too long ago based on all the good things I've heard. I've shot a lot of these 9mm compacts. The Shield has been the best by far. As soon as I can get the PM9 sorted, it's being sold.
Thanks for the review, Very helpful! I've been looking for a very small concealment gun. Reading another review in American Rifleman, they show this available in either 9mm or .40 S&W.
I'm looking more toward the .40 but I'm a novice. any opinions on the 9 vs 40?...I'm a 45acp fan but I'm willing to downsize for a good "pocket rocket". Some places and cloths make it very hard to conceal a full size XD. I don't want to go unarmed in places where concealment is a must.
Shot placement and being able to get back on target quickly are key, IMO. You are welcome to get which caliber you like, but I would go with the 9mm. .40's are a fair amount more snappy, even in larger guns. A smaller gun will be worse.
There is a post here about how handgun rounds all pretty much suck the same. I highly recommend reading it. It is by Dr Gary Roberts, an expert in the field of ballistics.
For what its worth, I carry a 9, and feel perfectly fine with it.
There is a post here about how handgun rounds all pretty much suck the same. I highly recommend reading it. It is by Dr Gary Roberts, an expert in the field of ballistics.
For what its worth, I carry a 9, and feel perfectly fine with it.
Well you will be surprised at what I decided on and why:
After considering the .40 over the 9mm with the M&P Shield....Really what I was looking for was a very small, very concealable, light, thin handgun no matter what the weather or what I'm wearing. One I can carry while working, (or yes, even on Sunday). I found the Shield was just too large for my needs (actually I didn't find any M&P Shields in St. George...only long waiting lists). I actually pulled the trigger and bought a Ruger LCP-CT yesterday. My wife thinks it's cute....but I'm still comfortable with my manhood...a .380 is not like I went out and adopted a poodle for goodness sakes....is it? :crown:
My wife thinks it's cute....but I'm still comfortable with my manhood...a .380 is not like I went out and adopted a poodle for goodness sakes....is it? :crown:
My wife thinks it's cute....but I'm still comfortable with my manhood...a .380 is not like I went out and adopted a poodle for goodness sakes....is it? :crown:
Yes, Stands for "Crimson Trace" the laser is great for me, Glad I spent the extra money. the gun has limited sights and my old eyes don't focus very well with open iron sights. Peep sights are fine (rifle)... sucks getting old.
I wanna get my hands on a Shield one of these days and see how it feels. If it is a great little gun, I may get one as a work carry gun. The 6.5lb trigger seems like it would be a bit stiff for an auto though. Especially being so small.
I wanna get my hands on a Shield one of these days and see how it feels. If it is a great little gun, I may get one as a work carry gun. The 6.5lb trigger seems like it would be a bit stiff for an auto though. Especially being so small.
I just bought my Shield for my edc. I am definitely satisfied. :thumbsup:
Any recommendations for a good awib holster?
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