UCC Photo Scrapbook

[Jeff Johnson]

I thought it might be fun, for those so inclined, to have a UCC photo scrapbook where people can post photos of themselves. Maybe some are camera shy, but quite a number of forum members have already been shown off in the UCC Events forum. Remember this is a photo thread, and so will get picture intensive -- fair warning to those with slow Internet connections. Of course, all photos posted here must be family-friendly.

I'll kick it off. Here's my old avatar:



Here's what a 30-30 round from a Win'94 does to a 2-liter soda bottle that was full of water:



Here's my vacation to a sunny place over there...





And this is NOT me:

[GeneticsDave]

Striking resemblance! What's the reflector belt for?

[Jeff Johnson]

Eh, no questions! This is a photo scrapbook thread.



Oh, alright. It was a safety requirement in that vacation resort to wear it from dusk to dawn when out. I just happened to have it on that day because I didn't want to go find it when the sun went down.



But since this is a photo scrapbook thread, so you've forced me to post another photo. Here are the son and the new grandson with me last January...





Now, photos, not chit chat! (Oh wait, this is this Chit Chat forum, isn't it?)

[GeneticsDave]

Alright, sorry about breaking the

Thanks for answering BTW and congrats again on the new grandchild. I will search around for a pic of me to post - have to find one where I'm doing something cool...

[Jeff Johnson]

Alright, sorry about breaking the
...

I'm just having fun with ya.

Now, where are those photos?

[MarshallDodge]

Out having some fun at the expense of a few pop cans:

[tapehoser]

Me at my favorite hunting spot in 2007:

[DeeJay]

Thats me and my Venture. Yep I'm packin'

[Mr. Magnum]

Ok one of me returning to the blinding daylight while exploring some mines.


And while sighting-in the PSL a few weeks ago.
(Still needs some tweaking, but it's nearly zeroed)

[Kevin Jensen]

OK, I'll bite. Here is one of my family and my in laws.

[Jeff Johnson]

OK, I'll bite. Here is one of my family and my in laws.

That's a great pic! Was that right after the UCC dinner where your in-laws spoke?

[Kevin Jensen]

Yes, right after the dinner at Golden Corral, and right before we openly carried at Temple Square.

[Crusader Smithy]

right before we openly carried at Temple Square.

That is so awsome.

[divegeek]

right before we openly carried at Temple Square.

That is so awsome.

No criticism of SGT Jensen, who I very much respect, but I think it may not be a good choice. When this happened, utahbagpiper explained over on OCDO the LDS church's role in the current law against carrying in churches, and pointed out that it's not a good idea to give the church further reason to be concerned about guns on their property. They consider Temple Square to be a "house of worship", which makes carrying -- CC or OC -- illegal there. Of course, it seems unlikely that they'd be very successful at making that definition of "house of worship" stick in court, but raising the issue might convince them that the prohibition needs to be expanded.

That would be a bad thing. Given that such a large percentage of Utah's population is LDS, and so many of our legislators are LDS, the church wields huge political power in this state. They're usually extremely careful not to exercise this power, but that just serves to intensify it in those rare cases when they do make a move.

I don't think OC'ing at Temple Square would prompt any kind of significant push from the church, but it's probably not a good risk to take. There's a possibility that we could end up with church carry as a misdemeanor or felony, rather than an infraction, and we could end up with an expansion in the definition of churches -- maybe some sort of "church zone" analogous to "school zone". At the very least, the debate could derail efforts to improve Utah's gun laws.

As utahbagpiper (Charles Hardy, Policy Director of GOUtah!) puts it: Don't wake the sleeping giant.

At least not until there are no other significant battles to be fought.

[Dustin WJ]

right before we openly carried at Temple Square.

That is so awsome.

No criticism of SGT Jensen, who I very much respect, but I think it may not be a good choice. When this happened, utahbagpiper explained over on OCDO the LDS church's role in the current law against carrying in churches, and pointed out that it's not a good idea to give the church further reason to be concerned about guns on their property. They consider Temple Square to be a "house of worship", which makes carrying -- CC or OC -- illegal there. Of course, it seems unlikely that they'd be very successful at making that definition of "house of worship" stick in court, but raising the issue might convince them that the prohibition needs to be expanded.

That would be a bad thing. Given that such a large percentage of Utah's population is LDS, and so many of our legislators are LDS, the church wields huge political power in this state. They're usually extremely careful not to exercise this power, but that just serves to intensify it in those rare cases when they do make a move.

I don't think OC'ing at Temple Square would prompt any kind of significant push from the church, but it's probably not a good risk to take. There's a possibility that we could end up with church carry as a misdemeanor or felony, rather than an infraction, and we could end up with an expansion in the definition of churches -- maybe some sort of "church zone" analogous to "school zone". At the very least, the debate could derail efforts to improve Utah's gun laws.

As utahbagpiper (Charles Hardy, Policy Director of GOUtah!) puts it: Don't wake the sleeping giant.

At least not until there are no other significant battles to be fought.