jktseug wrote:I know I have seen on here that in Utah, there is no gun registrations, and that when you buy a new gun from a dealer, the only people that know about the sale, and what the gun is, are the purchaser and the seller. Some people worry about having a gun sale reported to the federal or local authorities about what they purchased, and having it tied to them, as well as what happens if it is sold and how it is used after it is sold.
My question is, what are the laws on that in Utah. What exactly happens when you do buy a gun?
For example, background check is done without a CFP, a call to BCI for those with a CFP, WIth the background check, does it have the information on the gun you are buying, or just the type of gun if that? the 4473 form is filled out and kept by the FFL for 20 years, or sent to the atf. It has the serial number, my name, address, it looks like the social security number is optional, Make sure you are not a restricted person, and state and signature.
I have heard you don't need to do anything when you sell a gun, so if I sell a gun because i didn't carry my .45 anymore I don't need any paperwork. What happens if they happens to lose it, sell it again, or use it in self defense. If the record is pulled from the FFL, How do they know which FFL to ask? Are they reporting to the ATF what firearms are sold through them? And if they get the paper with my address is it good enough to say I did sell it to someone else, am I required to remember who I sold it to?
If I am buying a gun out of state, do both the FFL used to ship it, and the FFL used to buy it fill out a 4473 type form, is it a different form, and do they have to keep the records for 20 years as well?
Are FFL's required to keep them offsite or duplicates? What would happen if there was a fire at the FFL and the 4473 forms were burned? is there any legal liability for that with the FFL?
It is a lot of odd questions. Someone had brought up to me that when they bought a gun, they thought it was reported to ATF and the serial number went with the background check. I told them Utah doesn't have registration and the only people that know about the sale are the licensed firearm salesman and you but they have to keep records. I just like my information to be accurate and thorough. Also if I ever decide to buy or sell a gun on KSL, I want to know the legal way to do it.
UtahJarhead wrote:Lots of people ask for proof of residency so they ask to see their CFP. This also proves you are law abiding.
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