open carry at high school dinner

[Utah_patriot]

I say open carry to the high school it will be just fine.

It really wont be a big deal most won't notice and your night will be just fine.

Honor your student and enjoy the night and don't listen to the anti who think this will cause problems for your student.

Enjoy and open carry often this whole event will be fine to open carry to with no problems.

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[muddy]

I'm with you on this. I am all about OC and our rights but this is the kids 15 minutes of glory and should not be turned into a political agenda.

It is a public school. I will be attending a dinner at Grantsville High School for my son for getting a 3.5 GPA or higher.

Hi Everyone,

I know I am new to this forum so maybe I should keep my thoughts on this topic to myself, especially since it doesn't really address the question of the OP, but I feel it is important to keep this in mind, so here I go. I hope I am not out of line and don't offend anyone by sharing my thoughts on this.

This thing at the high school, is about students, one of whom is the OP's child, who are being celebrated for doing a remarkable job and, IMHO, nothing should be done that night that could possibly distract from that. If it were my son being honored, I wouldn't want to risk doing anything that could cause a disturbance that could take away from his night and possibly cause him embarrassment and/or problems that could last the rest of his days at that school.

I am all for people excercising their rights to open carry, even in the schools, but since one cannot be certain this would not cause a problem, this event might not be the place to do it. This event is about the achievements of these children, nothing else. It would be really sad for all those kids, and their parents, if anything happened to take away from their moment in the sun.

[Daeyel]

It is a public school. I will be attending a dinner at Grantsville High School for my son for getting a 3.5 GPA or higher.

Hi Everyone,

I know I am new to this forum so maybe I should keep my thoughts on this topic to myself, especially since it doesn't really address the question of the OP, but I feel it is important to keep this in mind, so here I go. I hope I am not out of line and don't offend anyone by sharing my thoughts on this.

This thing at the high school, is about students, one of whom is the OP's child, who are being celebrated for doing a remarkable job and, IMHO, nothing should be done that night that could possibly distract from that. If it were my son being honored, I wouldn't want to risk doing anything that could cause a disturbance that could take away from his night and possibly cause him embarrassment and/or problems that could last the rest of his days at that school.

I am all for people excercising their rights to open carry, even in the schools, but since one cannot be certain this would not cause a problem, this event might not be the place to do it. This event is about the achievements of these children, nothing else. It would be really sad for all those kids, and their parents, if anything happened to take away from their moment in the sun.

I view this as the most insidious form of gun control. Where we allow public opinion, peer pressure and the potential of causing a scene stop us from doing what is right, or what is our right.
This is the attitude that was angry at Rosa Parks, because now we have to WALK the 5 miles to work instead of taking the bus! Plus, The Man is cracking down on us in revenge! Stupid Rosa and her activism making life harder for all of us hardworking people!

Take the Gay Rights movement. Ever seen a Gay Pride parade? The most shocking, in your face parade of public indecency you'll ever wish you hadn't seen. Oh, I remember the outrage when I was a kid. Now? People hardly notice it, and don't much get their feathers ruffled over their parades anymore.
There's a lesson to be learned there....

[Utah_patriot]

Agreed

[manithree]

Take the Gay Rights movement. Ever seen a Gay Pride parade?

Heh. Sometimes when I put on my open carry holster, I quote Neil Young to my wife: "I guess I feel like letting my freak flag fly."

Every time you OC, you're a (small) Gun Pride parade.

[Hawk87]

I am all for open carrying, but I think there is a time and place for it. I have to agree with stang, if the event is a celebration, then I can see why it would be better to conceal. It is their night after all.

If you want to carry to pick them up from school one day, or to a meeting to a principle, then more power to you! Same with the grociery store, bank, whatever. But sometimes open carry is not the best idea.

This thing at the high school, is about students, one of whom is the OP's child, who are being celebrated for doing a remarkable job and, IMHO, nothing should be done that night that could possibly distract from that. If it were my son being honored, I wouldn't want to risk doing anything that could cause a disturbance that could take away from his night and possibly cause him embarrassment and/or problems that could last the rest of his days at that school.

I am all for people excercising their rights to open carry, even in the schools, but since one cannot be certain this would not cause a problem, this event might not be the place to do it. This event is about the achievements of these children, nothing else. It would be really sad for all those kids, and their parents, if anything happened to take away from their moment in the sun.

This was very well said. Notice that the poster doesn't say that we shouldn't open carry because it make people uncomfortable. He says that THIS event might not be a great idea out of consideration for the kids feelings. I think every time we open carry, we should acknowledge that it MIGHT cause a little consternation. If the venue is not a place where you want that, it would be worth concealing. To each their own however.

As I said, I am all for open carrying, but there is a time and place for it, and time and place where we should exerciser discretion.

Let the dog pile begin.

[Marine1]

I'm sure there will be some opposing views, Hawk87, but I for one agree with your post. Although, I would think twice about wearing OC into a bank.

[gobbly]

All of this assumes that the child has no opinion (or a negative opinion) of the issue. Not saying that's the case, but we don't know either way from what I could gather.

[kdt1970]

My son doesn't care if I carry this way, he wants to be a cop anyway. But for me, conceal is not an option with the type of clothes they want you to wear.

[Hawk87]

My son doesn't care if I carry this way, he wants to be a cop anyway. But for me, conceal is not an option with the type of clothes they want you to wear.

Huh, shirt and tie I take it? I am just curious about your set up now.

Anyway, if concealing isn't an option, then fair enough.

[Utah_patriot]

This line of thinking is since others might be offended don't do it.

So if it might offend others he should not bring his same sex partner because you could be asked to leave?
How dare we the people exercise our rights only when others won't be offended.

As a principled patriot I carry my firearm in accordance with Utah law not in accordance to how others view I should carry.
I have carried to multiple events at the local high school and elementary.

Guess what because I chose to carry at my local high school I was able to change a deputy's view on open carry after his sgt explained I was legal to carry at the high school.

Now the Deputy thanks me for carrying when I see him at school events.
In his carrer he went on to become. a detective and guess what he takes that knowledge with him to educate others.

Stand up for your rights even when it is not the popular thing to do.
Your children will understand and model the behavior you display as a principled patriot.

[UtahJarhead]

I am all for open carrying, but I think there is a time and place for it.

I couldn't agree more!

Any time, any place.

[UtahJarhead]

Although, I would think twice about wearing OC into a bank.

I do it almost every other week. Never had a Zion's Bank employee even bat an eye at me. Wonderful people behind the counters there!

[UtahJarhead]

This line of thinking is since others might be offended don't do it.

So if it might offend others he should not bring his same sex partner because you could be asked to leave?
How dare we the people exercise our rights only when others won't be offended.

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Stand up for your rights even when it is not the popular thing to do.

I say this a lot, but...

The First Amendment is not there to protect the speech we agree with, rather that which we find most offensive.
The Second Amendment is not there to protect the guns or method of carry we agree with, rather that which we find most offensive.

[Hawk87]

This line of thinking is since others might be offended don't do it.

No, the line is thinking that there might be a event that is important enough that its not worth disrupting. I never said not to carry because it would upset others, I said that open carrying might not be the best idea in this case (or cases like this) because it would cause disruption of an important event. I personally think open carrying is an important part of the fight for gun freedom, I also think there are some circumstances where it may not be a good idea. Really though, it doesn't matter, per the OP's post about not being able to conceal.

As a principled patriot I carry my firearm in accordance with Utah law not in accordance to how others view I should carry.
I have carried to multiple events at the local high school and elementary.

Guess what because I chose to carry at my local high school I was able to change a deputy's view on open carry after his sgt explained I was legal to carry at the high school.

Now the Deputy thanks me for carrying when I see him at school events.
In his carrer he went on to become. a detective and guess what he takes that knowledge with him to educate others.

Good on you, notice how I said in my post that I have no problem open carrying to a school. I think its good for people to be able to see 'good guys' carrying guns. Its also great when we can educate people about our rights, good job.

Stand up for your rights even when it is not the popular thing to do.
Your children will understand and model the behavior you display as a principled patriot.

I agree its important to stand up for your rights, and I agree that its important that your kids see you standing up for your rights. I also think its important for kids you see you exercising discretion. This really isn't a matter of standing up for your rights, no one is saying that you can't open carry in a high school. I am just trying to convey that there are times when it may not be wholly appropriate, and when discretion may be needed.